Jason's Story
I became a Christian aged 17, after never being in a church, with a dramatic conversion experience. I visited a local church that was helping my mother after my father had walked out, and I had two brothers, one aged 15 the other, 1 year old.It was my first experience of a place full of worship, life, and talk about relationship with Jesus. Given that the violence and abuse in my home, when the youth pastor told me becoming a Christian might make life more difficult, he gave me a hard sell.

But I was invited into a life meaning, adventure and purpose, with something to live for and something to die for. I gave my life to Jesus on the spot, when I heard that.Then I knew everything had to change, that my life was His, and my future plans were now His to direct.

I ended up working for a bank, then doing a theology degree, then working as an investment broker in London whilst helping plant churches, and started my family during this time, having met my wife at seminary.

Carl was a huge part of my story. I wouldn't have planted a church if it wasn't for one particular meeting in Brighton, that he was involved in, that allowed me to step out within my denomination.
Then in the midst of planting, I had a full nervous breakdown in 1999, overwork, my drug of choice, instead of my parent and siblings use of alcohol.
Very few people were there during that time outside my church, finding mental health hard to get involved with.

But Carl was, I remember his phone call to me, and the relief in knowing someone had been through something similar, and he helped me find hope and connection to Jesus.  So several years later, I'm still in ministry, still trying to keep it real, as I know lecture and teach at seminaries, and have found that Jesus had an academic as well as church planting journey for me.

Jason Clark

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Wednesday
Oct222008

Politics and Christians

I'm not going to delve into this deeply. I’m just going to share a couple thoughts as I listen to the rantings on the Left and the Right, neither of which I have found across the board to be rational or objective.

First of all, it seems to me that most Christians I meet are more influenced by their politics than by their faith. They seem to allow their political views to shape their faith, rather than allow their faith to shape their political viewpoints, which to me would mean one would have a tough time aligning oneself with either party completely. I sit and watch people on the Left and the Right say such thoughtless things, and rather than admit that their candidate is misstating something or simply wrong in their position, they will find some way to spin it in a partisan fashion. I'll be honest; I don't know how you can be partisan and not be in conflict with your faith. Our ultimate allegiance is to the 'Kingdom of God' and the values of the kingdom, which no political party embodies.

We live in a democratic society and we have the freedom and right to participate in the political process, and we should do so. But developing hatred for the men and women in politics themselves, not just their views, seems completely contrary to the words of Jesus when He says, "Love your enemies." Many see those who hold opposing views on political issues as the enemy.

Scripture tells us two interesting things that apply here. One is that “there is no authority in authority, that God hasn't placed there.” Two that we are to “honor and pray for those in government.” These things were written to men and women who were not living in a democratic society, but under the rule of Rome and the emperors. There are Christian men and women throughout the world who live under tyranny and oppression; they read the same Bible as us and they are instructed to do the same thing. Yet I have a sneaking suspicion that if the wrong party wins this election, those whose candidate failed to win office will have a really hard time with these instructions.

Years ago I was pastoring a church that had a Christian school ministry. In the school entryway there was a photograph of the then U.S. President, George Herbert Bush. Some time later he lost his bid for re-election. Long after he left office, the photo of Bush still was there. I talked to the pastor who was over the school, and I made it very clear to him that I wanted to see a picture of the current President, Bill Clinton hanging in that spot. It took months for that to take place. I felt that the children were being exposed to something completely contrary to what the scripture teaches and was a perfect example of “politics influencing faith versus faith influencing politics.”

I'm not saying you shouldn't be be passionate and concerned; just don't fall into the extremism and fear mongering that fills the airwaves and especially the Internet.

Just remember this: if your candidate wins or loses, God is in control. Oh yeah, and remember in your conversations with others to demonstrate honor and respect for the man or woman in office, whether you care for them or not. And pray for them as the scripture instructs us all to do. By the way the Apostle Paul goes as far as to say that we are to “give thanks” for them.

Reader Comments (7)

I love it when you speak from your heart and say what you think! And I really love it when you draw us to the plumbline of the inerrant Word. The Spirit inside always vibrates in synchronicity to the Truth. It's what I always loved about the Vineyard. Sometimes that measurement of the Scriptures made me uncomfortable! But that's the point--to draw the screeching flesh to the Living Plumbline; in . . . the . . . end . . . it always was a discipline that was welcomed. Somehow, ultimately, it's more of a comfort to be aligned closer to The Truth. T.Y.

November 3, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterAnn

Spot on Carl!

Daniel 2:21 - "It is He [the God of heaven]…who removes kings and establishes kings."

Job 42:2 - "I know that You [the God of Israel] can do all things, and that no purpose of Yours can be thwarted."

Ian Marshall
www.frontlineresources.org

November 4, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterIan Marshall

Thank you for writing this. Now that the election is over I've finally gotten a breather, but it's hard being a voice of moderation between two vicious sides. This world is not our home, so why do we quarrel and clamor so much? Where is the fruit of the spirit in our political rhetoric?

November 10, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterSteven Kippel

This has been an interesting season. My wife and I have supported a Dem for the first time in 40 years of voting, and the reaction of the Chrisitan community was eye-opening. Being on the "other side" of "Fortress Christiana" meant our friends and families dis-owned us, and we became outcasts to the Christian community. It was a very revealing look into how the world is treated by those very people that are supposed to be loving them into the Kingdom. Shame on us...
...the "other Carl" from NY

November 11, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterCarl

Bless your heart Carl and I do know which Carl this is and am sorry to hear about your experience.
Blessings to you and SHAME ON THEM, but we have to love THEM too darn it.

November 12, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterCarl Tuttle

Nice site.

John 18:6 - When Jesus said to them, "I am he," they stepped back and fell to the ground.

November 27, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterchristopher

I voted for Obama and some of my "Christian" brothers and sisters told me that I could not really be a Christian if I voted for him. How awful is that?

November 27, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterKeith

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